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Sam
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The jury was dismissed today after a 2nd full day of deliberations.  What the fuck?  This is a open and shut case, I don't under how it takes 16+ hours of talking about it.  Apparently there are 2 jurors who are concerned about retaliation against them if they convict.  I'm not sure how much of a coward you are if you'd consider sending a young man to years in prison to save your own ass.  But here we are.

How do you see this playing out?

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Topic starter Posted : November 17, 2021 5:25 pm
NukesMurphy
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I believe the hold up is not necessarily if they are able to make a decision on one count or another, it's that the prosecution added the lesser charges. So now the jury has to take each charge and do the due diligence in terms of weight of evidence and reasonable doubt etc. for the first charge, but then do the same deliberation and due diligence on the lesser charge as well. So there's a lot to go through considering they would do best by reviewing the evidence and making the determination per charge. Hence why they spent a lot of time today reviewing the FBI footage. Ultimately, I think he'll clear the homicide charges but might get stuck with a reckless since the threshold is lower. Who knows though, I'm hoping the judge takes into consideration the dismissal since the trial has been a bit of shitshow.

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Posted : November 17, 2021 6:02 pm
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Sam
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@nukesmurphy I don't think there's even a case to be made for reckless endangerment.  He only shot who deserved to be shot.  I understand there's more to the law than that, but come on.  He did what he had to do.

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Topic starter Posted : November 17, 2021 6:32 pm
BMSchrowang
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I've been watching most of the trial on Rekieta Law livestream (highly recommend) and its clear that there is enough evidence for a mistrial but it sounds like the judge wants to wait until a verdict is announced before he decides to grant a mistrial incase he is acquitted. The memes from the case are great but watching the case is near painful from the level of negligence on the prosecutions side. All of the evidence is clearly pointing at self defense but I'm starting to worry that the jury is concerned about backlash of their decision more than they are concerned about throwing an innocent man in prison for life. 

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Posted : November 18, 2021 8:27 am
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NukesMurphy
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@sam it's hard to say. The four shots he fired on the one idiot and him loaded with FMJ may be enough since the rounds keep going.

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Posted : November 18, 2021 9:13 am
NukesMurphy
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@sam also to note, I'm not in favor of him being charged at all. Just makes me glad I have carry insurance because a case like this would bankrupt me for life.

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Posted : November 18, 2021 9:15 am
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@nukesmurphy yeah.  The FMJ argument the prosecutor is making is so fuckin retarded.  He says hollowpoints "explode on impact," his words, but FMJ are horrible too.  What the fuck are we suppose to use then?  I'm confused, because they'll attack you either way for it.  Ludicrous...

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Topic starter Posted : November 18, 2021 9:37 am
Sam
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@bmschrowang Yeah, that was my thought too.  But can you imagine the insanity if he's convicted and then the judge declares a mistrial?  Boy, shit would get western.

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Topic starter Posted : November 18, 2021 9:38 am
BMSchrowang
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Well, another day with no verdict. The current assumption is that the jury foreman is a Karen who refuses to have her mind changed by any of the evidence. How long do you think this will go on before they declare a hung jury or the judge grants a mistrial?

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Posted : November 18, 2021 4:20 pm
Sam
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@bmschrowang I donno man.  This is ridiculous.  If that is actually the case, and some dumb bitch on there came into this with her mind already made up, there's probably no changing it.  And I think if a hung jury occurs, I don't see the judge declaring a mistrial with prejudice, just a mistrial, which means Kyle would have to go through all this again.

MSNBC tried to follow jurors home last night.  I feel like our justice system has been so corrupted by the media, it's impossible to get a fair trial anymore.  

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Topic starter Posted : November 18, 2021 5:45 pm
Sam
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Saw a news article below, and who knows how true it is, but they say the jury is split 6-6.  Which if true, and who knows, we are fucked as a country. The media has successfully split us to the point people don't care about the facts.

https://conservativebrief.com/count-54822/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=DJD

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Topic starter Posted : November 19, 2021 10:16 am
NukesMurphy
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@sam yeah, I'd say that's speculation, but who freakin' knows. It's hard to tell today what sources are "sources" or legit sources.

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Posted : November 19, 2021 10:20 am
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BMSchrowang
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Officially not guilty on all charges!!

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Posted : November 19, 2021 12:27 pm
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Sam
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@bmschrowang Amen!!! Great news for Kyle and our rights!

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Topic starter Posted : November 19, 2021 1:35 pm
Sam
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So, who's betting on how much of Kenosha will burn tonight???

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Topic starter Posted : November 19, 2021 3:34 pm
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